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 on: Today at 12:15:56 AM 
Started by STsacrifice4LTgain - Last post by STsacrifice4LTgain
Thanks for detailed dairy - its extremely valuable to have another good thread in here. Hopefully the tenderness will go away once legs recover from nailing. In case of doing femurs and tibia are you concerned with proportions, especially the torso length? Did you try measure sitting height perhaps?


Thanks Joe... hope so too! I look forward to getting some pain relief.. My PT did alot of nice stretches for me today that will hopefully help me with all this nagging muscle pain/cramps. Exactly the opposite.. another motivating factor to do my femurs is so my legs would look much more proportional. Remember, I lengthened 8.6CM on my tibias on my 1st LL. So, if I could reach 8CM on my femurs this time around, of course they would be much more proportionate with my tibs.
Dr. M also mentioned that to me during our initial consult.
I havent tried measuring my sitting height, because it's not a concern for me at all. My only goal is to do my best to reach 8cm in the best way possible.. meaning doing PT 2x/day, doing stretches in bed before/after each distraction, eating healthy & of course the most challenging part for me - pain management.
Have you done LL before or considering it Joe??

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 on: Yesterday at 09:16:59 PM 
Started by STsacrifice4LTgain - Last post by Joe2000
Thanks for detailed dairy - its extremely valuable to have another good thread in here. Hopefully the tenderness will go away once legs recover from nailing. In case of doing femurs and tibia are you concerned with proportions, especially the torso length? Did you try measure sitting height perhaps?

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 on: Yesterday at 07:27:51 AM 
Started by STsacrifice4LTgain - Last post by STsacrifice4LTgain
DAY 2 - Much of the same throughout the day. Ate all my meals, did my foot flexes in bed and then the PT guy came in the afternoon & asked me to stand. Wow... that took about every ounce of energy for me to do, but it did feel to get the full extension and stand up on the walker (a nice break from lying in bed past day and half). My legs were definitely shaking, obviously very weak but again it felt good to do it. Later that night, I must have forgotten to press my Dilaudid button so of course, I had really bad pain in the middle of the night. The nurse came in right away & loaded me up more on the Dilaudid.

REAL-TIME UPDATE -  DAY 11 - Both thighs are veryyy sore/tender/restless and the muscle pain has forced me to take more Norco than I'd like.. Up until a few days ago, I was only taking 1 norco in the morning before PT and 1 before bed. I followed that schedule about 5 days straight after leaving the hospital. But since these muscle spasms/cramps/aches (whatever u wana call them) came about, I've been forced to take about 3-4 norco each day, along with the muscle relaxer Flexeril which hasn't dont jack for me. The nursing facility that I'm currently staying at provides me with all my daily vitamins (calcium/vit D/zinc/multivit) daily meds (norco for now, since Flexeril does nothing for me), 24/7 nursing care, 2x/day PT, OT & 3 meals/day.

* NOTE *  I've only lengthened 5mm until now so I doubt that the nagging muscle pains in my thighs are from the lengthening (could be attributing to it some). Almost 100% that its from all the PT I've been doing. I've been walking everyday, usually 2x/day on the walker during my PT sessions and the past few days, I've walked about 150 feet. Not to mention, my PT added in some resistance/stretching exercises & also has me doin about 15mins/day on exercise bike.

Anyone else have/had this constant muscle pain/cramping/restlessness on their thighs that can provide some insight/guidance to me on what to do?

My goal is to reach the full 8CM so I definitely gotta do whatever it takes to allow my body the best possible chance of reaching that goal, while minimizing & hopefully avoiding any setbacks or complications.

C'mon LL Vets or advisors, give me some helpful feedback PLEASEEE. THANKS!

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 on: December 10, 2018, 04:46:33 PM 
Started by STsacrifice4LTgain - Last post by STsacrifice4LTgain
NIGHT BEFORE SURGERY - I receive a call 2 days before from my lady & she tells me thats she's flying out the next day to be with me for the surgery. She didn't want me to be all alone & wanted to support me. Pretty awesome & it was truly best surprise. She helped me prepare many things before the surgery, such as:
a) filling my precribed meds - the Norco (painkiller) and Xarelto (blood thinner)
b) hot water bottle - the ones that come in like a red, rubbery bottle - its like $6 from Walmart (but was sold out or unavail. wherever I went)
c) going to Dr. D's office - the internal med doc who takes blood/does general checkup for you
d) discussing all pertinent info w/ Hospital, such as no food/water before midnight, wear comfy clothes, arrive 530am at Hospital (2 Hours before surgery) etc.
e) returning my rental car & scheduling an Uber to take us from my airbnb to Hospital the following morning

SURGERY DAY - Arrived to hospital on time, wearing loose & comfy sweats and t-shirt. Prior to surgery, they do all their regular checkups, urine sample, blood sample, change clothes into the very fashionable hospital gown lol etc and then the anesthetist comes in & gives you the good stuff prior to moving you into the surgical room. All I remember before getting wheeled into that room was hugging/kissin my girl good bye AND a funny the comment the Doc made to me the day before - 'you got this, you've already done this before.. its like riding a bike'. I loved the 'riding a bike' comment. Obviously, going through a 2nd round of LL is not as easy as riding a bike but I will say that I did feel a bit more relaxed/less anxious prior to the surgery this time around.

Anyways, I do apprec the Doc for the support & encouraging comments. Regardless of whether you've done LL before or not, it's STILL Very much a new challenge of it's own going through it again, especially since we're not re-doing our tibs again. It's a totally different body part so it presents new challenges, the unknown factor for me in regards to my femurs BUT of course, there is some carry-over in regards to a) not my 1st time having orthopedic surgery b) feel a bit more ready/prepared for the various PAIN that come n go constantly & hopefully can better manage the pill taking schedule, so to speak c) feel a bit more experienced using wheelchair/walker/getting around with 2 broken legs etc. d) feel a bit more at ease, like an inner confidence knowing that u been through this before and if you did it before, it can be done again. and e) LASTLY, you try to learn from mistakes made on your prior LL exper. to try & do things better the 2nd time around.

Back to surgery day - So of course it was all a blur after kissing my lady goodbye & being wheeled into the surgery room. Woke up sometime in the afternoon I believe, feeling loopy-doopy of course. Going in and out of sleep and maybe some time at night, the PT came & asked me if I wanted to stand. So yeah, that wasn't happening lol. We saved that for the following day. I just layed in bed, wiggled my toes, moved my feet up/down etc. Ate some suprisingly decent Hospital food. Whenever I felt the pain shoot up more, I'd press the button which activates the Morphine that's connected to you through an IV. The nursing staff/care was incredible at the Hospital. Anytime I'd push the button for the nurse, they'd come right away & fulfill all my needy requests  Smiley

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 on: December 10, 2018, 03:35:11 PM 
Started by STsacrifice4LTgain - Last post by STsacrifice4LTgain
OTHER FACTORS - almost forgot to mention the other key factor in me choosing Dr. M was after reading 'Femurs2014' diary/experience with Dr. M. I believe he was the only one at the time who shared a very comprehensive/detailed diary from A-Z (with photos) so a big THANK YOU to him for the diary & after seeing how good his experience/results, it gave me even more confidence to go w/ Dr. M.

AND, in the months prior to my surgery date, I came across 2 other Dr. M diaries which I found to be very detailed/helpful as well, so another big THANK YOU to 'LAGrowin' and 'short2tall' for the diaries/contributions they made to help future LL patients who may be considering Dr. M, as well.   

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 on: December 10, 2018, 03:16:14 PM 
Started by STsacrifice4LTgain - Last post by STsacrifice4LTgain
BRIEF UPDATE - Had my consult with Dr. M Feb. of this year to discuss rod removal from my tibias (from my initial LL w/ Dr Sarin back in 2012) & also the possibility of doing round 2 on my femurs. After my consult, we decided it was best to hold off on rod removal for now and to possibly proceed w/ the LL. After about a month of consideration, I opted for the LL option for a few reasons: a) Dr M. made a good point that overall, my legs would look much more proportional (since I already achieved 8.6cm of lengthening on my tibs) b) It would help me correct a minor LL discrepancy c) I somehow lost almost an inch from my initial LL - I don't know how (maybe the legs just settled or the measurements at the time weren't 100% accurate) but according to measurements received at 2 different facilities, I was told 168cm (where-as this whole time I thought I was 170cm). So you can imagine my surprise/disappointment and d) The Precice 2 gives me the option to try and lengthen anywhere up to a maximum of 8CM
So all in all.. made sense in alot of ways to go for it and I like the fact that Dr. M is here in the States and obviously has a great reputation/track record in the LL game. I also like that the Precice nail seems more user friendly & less painful (from what other LL'ers have said) than those clicking machines.

Next update - Surgery Day

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 on: December 10, 2018, 02:41:03 PM 
Started by STsacrifice4LTgain - Last post by STsacrifice4LTgain
Greetings fellow LL Warriors & inquirers! First & foremost, a special shout-out to SysOp for maintaining this excellent forum, which allows us all to connect & support each other in achieving our dreams in this very unique & special fraternity, which I often call the 'LL Club'.

Hope everyone is doing well. I'll start by mentioning that I had the surgery done with Dr. M on Nov 29th (about 10 days ago) and I will try to recap/update you all as well as I can from the date of my surgery until now.

Thanks for reading & feel free to ask/PM me any questions.

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 on: October 30, 2018, 08:23:31 PM 
Started by SysOp - Last post by jcayabo
Man, so hard to do this procedure without a support system to talk with. Anyone out there still monitor this place?

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 on: October 12, 2018, 06:24:13 PM 
Started by SysOp - Last post by jcayabo
To be honest I dont remember what kind of shots I was given, but it was not morphine and I never had any issues with addiction. I took it because I had less pain with them. Sounds good if you can walk almost pain-free.

And good job with the cream. Seems like you have everything under control.

I am missing lunch in your daily routine plan. I hope you eat a lot of vegetables and fruits.

Also when you have stairs, put half of your foot on the stair and put all your weight on the other half so that you have a good stretch of the achilles tendon.

My doctor always stressed to walk a lot. In my opinion walking is highly overrated and stretching is underrated.
My doctor told me to walk 8 hours a day. I tried, but it should be 90 percent stretching and 10 percent walking.
Unfortunately I did not know that at that time. So upper body weight and the bicycle is hopefully 1 hour. The rest should be stretching and a little bit of walking.

One question: So everything in total is about 10 000 Euros for you?

I definitely didn't pay 10,000. I sent you a friend request on Facebook (Jordan Cayabo) or skype jordan.cayabo and I can break it down for you there, they gave me a good price so it's not really advertised. Also pricing was a lot different because I have a residency here, he even told me 2 different prices at 2 different consultations when my Russian was better. You're right in your diary, unless you iron out the pricing for everything up front, they'll try and double charge you for it. All mine included was install/remove surgery, pre-op bloodwork, and around 3 hospital days. Everything else was extra.

But, I have to say in this case you really get what you pay for. REALLY limited advice, no one to talk to, no one really watching over you. In your diary you mentioned you pre-consolidated early, hell I would have no idea until a couple of weeks for my xray.

Had an absolute cra* day today, I did a lot of walking yesterday, using trauma shots to get through it. Lengthened in the evening and tried to sleep, but the shot wore off and barely slept a wink. When I got up I was even worse, struggling to even sit up from lying down. My ankle is on fire again. Really at odds on how to do my schedule, taking the shot so late screwed my sleep completely... This is definitely the stuff I would rather pay for...

I'm eating right and my diet is on point. A lot of minerals, yogurt, proteins. But I'm also trying to drop weight so staying away from sugary/carb junk.

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 on: October 12, 2018, 12:04:23 PM 
Started by SysOp - Last post by prince2
I took a shot of Kasafix (for trauma) as recommended from the doctor to help with the pain, and I was walking all around my apartment almost entirely pain-free. You mention in your diaries that you were getting a shot every day when you were in the hospital, is it the same stuff? People kept mentioning morphine when I was in the hospital and this seems similar. I can see why people get addicted to this stuff haha.

Yeah I had shooting pains in my pin points, I smeared antibiotic cream all around them and it seems to have helped.

Thanks for the tips for the achilles stretches, I'm doing them as much as I can as well as riding some little mini-bike. Walking I'm only doing about 20 minutes total a day because my apartment is tiny, I don't know if it's enough. I kind of messed up and rented an apartment with stairs, so I can't really leave until I figure out how to get down them. It's been 7 days lengthening, but hope I can get out of here and walk downtown.
Haha, I think I'm out of youtube to watch...

Schedule kind of goes like this:

9 - Breakfast
10-3 - Upper body weights / bicycle work / stretching
4-8 -  kasafix shot / walking / bicycle work / stretching
9 - dinner

Any advice?


To be honest I dont remember what kind of shots I was given, but it was not morphine and I never had any issues with addiction. I took it because I had less pain with them. Sounds good if you can walk almost pain-free.

And good job with the cream. Seems like you have everything under control.

I am missing lunch in your daily routine plan. I hope you eat a lot of vegetables and fruits.

Also when you have stairs, put half of your foot on the stair and put all your weight on the other half so that you have a good stretch of the achilles tendon.

My doctor always stressed to walk a lot. In my opinion walking is highly overrated and stretching is underrated.
My doctor told me to walk 8 hours a day. I tried, but it should be 90 percent stretching and 10 percent walking.
Unfortunately I did not know that at that time. So upper body weight and the bicycle is hopefully 1 hour. The rest should be stretching and a little bit of walking.

One question: So everything in total is about 10 000 Euros for you?

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