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« Reply #320 on: August 19, 2012, 12:20:10 PM » |
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Where I live, I'm definitly in the bottom 25% for height in people my age. This was confirmed in my school year where we did height in BIology across the year group and surprise surprise I'm in the 70th percentile. Everyone who's considered attractive is tall, and also has long, elogant torsos and stubby legs - That's aesthetic perfection. High testosterone leads to longer torsos :/ And yes, I'm skinny as hell  I'm just like my Dad in terms of build - I have really broad shoulders, really skinny waist which then gives me the illusion of having wide hips even though they're not that wide in all honesty - I don't like how my body looks, girls like me until they see my freaky disproportion I'm not sure if I'll grow. I hope I will. I've grown 1cm in a couple of months which shows at least I haven't STOPPED - before that I grew only 2cm in A YEAR so maybe I can bump up to 5'10". If I get to 5'11" I probably won't do ll - You just have to remember that the youth of our era are signifcantly taller than us. I made a thread about this: http://www.makemetaller.org/index.php/topic,4619.0.html it shows the average height in my year of 16 year olds to be 179cm, something which I would love to be  Quixotic, UK has a 177.1cm mean (which is not even 5'10) for males between 16-24. This is from a study done in 2010. This is the link to the study http://www.ic.nhs.uk/statistics-and-data-collections/health-and-lifestyles-related-surveys/health-survey-for-england/health-survey-for-england--2010-trend-tables. Download the second file, "HSE 2010 - Adult trend tables (0.59MB)". Your school's mean may be 179cm, but there were only 64 surveyed so it is not very accurate to reflect the average height in all UK. So, bottom line is you are average height in UK, with a very big chance to grow taller. Again, eat good, sleep right and enjoy you life. Get over your height issues, at least for a few years, it's not doing you any good. And mind you if girls don't like your body it's not because it is disproportioned, it's because you are skinny. Go to the gym and things will change. 
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« Reply #321 on: August 19, 2012, 04:19:14 PM » |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#Average_height_around_the_worldFor people my age it is 5'10". And where I live is an affluent area and it shows in the height, where their are more taller people because they come from successful families who have traditionally always been tall. My dream height would be a perfectly proportioned 5'11" - 6'. However, that's impossible for me due to my proportions, so I'll have to stick with being a rather leggy 5'11" :/
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« Reply #322 on: August 19, 2012, 05:20:20 PM » |
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I wouldn't question if your generations average height is taller than what is listed on Wiki. My country, according to that site, has a 6ft average but I doubt that's the average for my generation, seems more like 6'2. I don't think you can do anything but hoping to grow taller. I am around your age too, and hoping for a little more height. I had my bone age determined by my doctor and I was told I had very little growth left. You could go do the same and you will know the answer. It's just an x-ray of your left wrist and you'll get the answer. No need for false hope. Boys are usually at their adult height at the age of 16. You still grow into your twenties, but it's not in the long bones as they're one of the first growth zones to fuse. I am not saying you won't grow, I'm just saying you can get a decent answer from your doctor  .
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« Reply #323 on: August 19, 2012, 05:23:32 PM » |
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Seems like Denmark has a taller average than the almighty Netherlands even, haha!
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« Reply #324 on: August 19, 2012, 05:42:41 PM » |
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Thanks, but like I said, I'm still pissed off that my legs and arms grew loads but my torso didn't -.-
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« Reply #325 on: August 19, 2012, 08:10:55 PM » |
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Thanks, but like I said, I'm still pissed off that my legs and arms grew loads but my torso didn't -.-
You can stretch your spinal by a few cm. It takes a lot of time and is required to be maintained. I, unlike you, has short arms even for my present height because of my abnormal small girl hands. I am going to see if I can gain some height and wingspan from hangning/stretching, it's worth a go while waiting for LL.
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« Reply #326 on: August 20, 2012, 12:01:46 AM » |
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I wouldn't question if your generations average height is taller than what is listed on Wiki. My country, according to that site, has a 6ft average but I doubt that's the average for my generation, seems more like 6'2.
RasmusDenmark, did it ever happen to you to like or want to buy something and suddenly start to see that thing in all places? I can't think of a good example for your age, but for an adult something similar to wanting to buy a red volkswagen golf and starting to notice the same care all over the town. I don't know if you'll get my point, but this is what happens to you. You are obsessed with height (as we all here are more or less) and you focus on all the tall guys around you, while somewhat ignoring or the rest. Because of this you believe they are more than they are, hence believe their height is the average. Of course, this is only speculation on my part, I can't state it is a fact. Also, I haven't personally been to your school, neither visited Norway for that matter, but I am certain it does not have a 6'2 average. This is the the study on wikipedia for males between 20-25, done in 2008-2009. Measured average height of 1.824 m (6 ft 0 in). http://www.helsedirektoratet.no/publikasjoner/fysisk-aktivitet-blant-voksne-og-eldre/Publikasjoner/fysisk-aktivitet-blant-voksne-og-eldre-.pdfThis is the correct height for your country. It is not subjective, it is measured. Even if let's say 16yr olds are taller than those in their early 20's, they can't be taller with more than 1cm, and even that is a stretch. A 2" difference is ridiculous. Your perception is altered. You need to change this because it makes you even more frustrated for nothing. I thought the average in my country was bigger also, but once I did LL and raised my eye level by a couple of inches I've realized it wasn't as bad as I thought. 
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« Reply #327 on: August 20, 2012, 12:49:22 AM » |
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RasmusDenmark, did it ever happen to you to like or want to buy something and suddenly start to see that thing in all places? I can't think of a good example for your age, but for an adult something similar to wanting to buy a red volkswagen golf and starting to notice the same care all over the town. I don't know if you'll get my point, but this is what happens to you. You are obsessed with height (as we all here are more or less) and you focus on all the tall guys around you, while somewhat ignoring or the rest. Because of this you believe they are more than they are, hence believe their height is the average. Of course, this is only speculation on my part, I can't state it is a fact. Also, I haven't personally been to your school, neither visited Norway for that matter, but I am certain it does not have a 6'2 average. This is the the study on wikipedia for males between 20-25, done in 2008-2009. Measured average height of 1.824 m (6 ft 0 in). http://www.helsedirektoratet.no/publikasjoner/fysisk-aktivitet-blant-voksne-og-eldre/Publikasjoner/fysisk-aktivitet-blant-voksne-og-eldre-.pdfThis is the correct height for your country. It is not subjective, it is measured. Even if let's say 16yr olds are taller than those in their early 20's, they can't be taller with more than 1cm, and even that is a stretch. A 2" difference is ridiculous. Your perception is altered. You need to change this because it makes you even more frustrated for nothing. I thought the average in my country was bigger also, but once I did LL and raised my eye level by a couple of inches I've realized it wasn't as bad as I thought.  This is true for me too, I only ever see the tall people even though there are plenty of people smaller than me around  But still, I cannot hide away from the fact that I'm Below average. Perhaps it goes back to my upbringing - My family is weird, eccentric, dysfunctional in places - I crave normalacy. I always have done. I've never wanted to be famous, or anything like that, I just want to fulfil my fantasy of being an average guy, and height is most important for me  We all want ll for different reasons, mine might be unorthadox but it's a legitmate reason for wanting it. I'm not psychologically comprimised, as MMT might have said if he was still on the site  No offence intended to him, I just feel that would be how he saw me... I've always been different and quirky - and people like me for that. It's not like I'm unpopular, or can't get girls, I love my social life. But after that I want to disappear with the person I love hopefully into complete obscurity, I don't want to stand out. I just want to be slap bang in the middle. Might not be perfect, but I'll be statistically normal It's my dream and I'm following it, as I wish everyone else follows theirs  if you knew my life story and all that I've been through and seen - some of it tragic, some of it comically hilarious and ironic - Then you would realise how much being normal means to me  I'll never be famous or be perfect, and that's more than fine by me,
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« Reply #328 on: August 21, 2012, 09:18:03 AM » |
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RasmusDenmark, did it ever happen to you to like or want to buy something and suddenly start to see that thing in all places? I can't think of a good example for your age, but for an adult something similar to wanting to buy a red volkswagen golf and starting to notice the same care all over the town. I don't know if you'll get my point, but this is what happens to you. You are obsessed with height (as we all here are more or less) and you focus on all the tall guys around you, while somewhat ignoring or the rest. Because of this you believe they are more than they are, hence believe their height is the average. Of course, this is only speculation on my part, I can't state it is a fact. Also, I haven't personally been to your school, neither visited Norway for that matter, but I am certain it does not have a 6'2 average. This is the the study on wikipedia for males between 20-25, done in 2008-2009. Measured average height of 1.824 m (6 ft 0 in). http://www.helsedirektoratet.no/publikasjoner/fysisk-aktivitet-blant-voksne-og-eldre/Publikasjoner/fysisk-aktivitet-blant-voksne-og-eldre-.pdfThis is the correct height for your country. It is not subjective, it is measured. Even if let's say 16yr olds are taller than those in their early 20's, they can't be taller with more than 1cm, and even that is a stretch. A 2" difference is ridiculous. Your perception is altered. You need to change this because it makes you even more frustrated for nothing. I thought the average in my country was bigger also, but once I did LL and raised my eye level by a couple of inches I've realized it wasn't as bad as I thought.  are you from norway?
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« Reply #329 on: August 21, 2012, 06:15:55 PM » |
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are you from norway?
kusop, you have the answer at the end of the first paragraph you quoted. 
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« Reply #330 on: August 22, 2012, 05:37:11 PM » |
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I've done something similar to Quixotic in school. Measuring average height. This was done on 40 boys, 23 from my class and 17 from my neighboor class. The boys average was 188cm, which I believe is 6'2? While girls average was 170cm aka 5'7. I can't point out the entire average, I can only tell from MY experience, which is the area I live in. The average here for boys IS NOT 6ft, regardless of your "proofs" from Wikipedia. My endocrinologist even stated that the average boy from 1995 and 1994 stood 187cm in my specific part of Denmark, which is almost 6'2 (We are measured every year by a school doctor till we're 16). I don't know if it is 6ft for the entire country, neither do I care, I am not living in every single part of Denmark, but where I live this is not the average. I am not frustrated because we have such tall people, I am only glad for those being a part of it.
What I was trying to tell Quixotic is that the youth, at least in my opinion, seems to be taller than the average listed on the webs. So I could understand him feeling small even though he is average where he lives.
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« Reply #331 on: August 22, 2012, 06:21:18 PM » |
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I've done something similar to Quixotic in school. Measuring average height. This was done on 40 boys, 23 from my class and 17 from my neighboor class. The boys average was 188cm, which I believe is 6'2? While girls average was 170cm aka 5'7. I can't point out the entire average, I can only tell from MY experience, which is the area I live in. The average here for boys IS NOT 6ft, regardless of your "proofs" from Wikipedia. My endocrinologist even stated that the average boy from 1995 and 1994 stood 187cm in my specific part of Denmark, which is almost 6'2 (We are measured every year by a school doctor till we're 16). I don't know if it is 6ft for the entire country, neither do I care, I am not living in every single part of Denmark, but where I live this is not the average. I am not frustrated because we have such tall people, I am only glad for those being a part of it.
What I was trying to tell Quixotic is that the youth, at least in my opinion, seems to be taller than the average listed on the webs. So I could understand him feeling small even though he is average where he lives.
Exactly. I can note this change in average by driving 5 minutes down the road. Where I live is particulary affluent and a lot of people have lived here for a couple of generations - 5 minutes down the round is one of the poorest towns in the U.K. In the particular rough areas, The average certainly feels like my height. Where I live however the average height is the top end of 5'10". A swing of nearly 2 inches in the space of 10 miles.
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« Reply #332 on: August 22, 2012, 11:07:22 PM » |
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I've done something similar to Quixotic in school. Measuring average height. This was done on 40 boys, 23 from my class and 17 from my neighboor class. The boys average was 188cm, which I believe is 6'2? While girls average was 170cm aka 5'7. I can't point out the entire average, I can only tell from MY experience, which is the area I live in. The average here for boys IS NOT 6ft, regardless of your "proofs" from Wikipedia. My endocrinologist even stated that the average boy from 1995 and 1994 stood 187cm in my specific part of Denmark, which is almost 6'2 (We are measured every year by a school doctor till we're 16). I don't know if it is 6ft for the entire country, neither do I care, I am not living in every single part of Denmark, but where I live this is not the average. I am not frustrated because we have such tall people, I am only glad for those being a part of it.
What I was trying to tell Quixotic is that the youth, at least in my opinion, seems to be taller than the average listed on the webs. So I could understand him feeling small even though he is average where he lives.
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« Reply #333 on: August 22, 2012, 11:14:10 PM » |
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Rasmus what height is the smallest and tallest person of each gender?
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« Reply #334 on: August 23, 2012, 05:17:07 PM » |
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Smallest boy measured was me at 175cm. Tallest boy was measured 200cm. Smallest girl was measured 163cm, tallest was measured 178cm. Quite funny qoute I found on the internet: "I've heard that the Dutch are the tallest people in the world with men at an average height of 6'1". I'm 6'3" tall and have been to the Netherlands several times and didn't notice many people taller than me. Denmark was another story. I've always felt short compared to the Danes. I wonder if the Danes were included in this study?" ( http://www.fodors.com/community/europe/the-dutch---tallest-people-in-the-world-1.cfm)
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« Reply #335 on: August 23, 2012, 05:19:05 PM » |
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"Denmark has always had tall people, and big ones at that. Those vikings are something else. I'm only 6' but I remember being in a dance bar in Copenhagen years ago where all I could see was armpits." Also from the link above. 
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« Reply #336 on: August 23, 2012, 05:23:09 PM » |
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Smallest boy measured was me at 175cm. Tallest boy was measured 200cm.
Smallest girl was measured 163cm, tallest was measured 178cm.
The tallest girl was only 178? strange, expected more tbh - In my year there is a 6'1" girl, 5'10" x 3 and someone who is my heightish at 5'9.5".
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« Reply #337 on: August 23, 2012, 05:35:05 PM » |
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There is not a lot of really tall girls here. There is plenty of 5'10, but I have only seen a single 6ft girl. Most girls are equal in height of what I have seen, which is 5'6-5'8. Though we have a lot of 200cm+ guys. Tallest I know of is 214cm and 211cm.
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« Reply #338 on: August 23, 2012, 05:38:15 PM » |
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There is not a lot of really tall girls here. There is plenty of 5'10, but I have only seen a single 6ft girl. Most girls are equal in height of what I have seen, which is 5'6-5'8. Though we have a lot of 200cm+ guys. Tallest I know of is 214cm and 211cm.
Wow, 7ft  Tallest guy I've ever seen has been a meagre 6'8" whilst the tallest friend I have is 6'5" :')
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« Reply #339 on: August 23, 2012, 09:17:07 PM » |
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Rasmus, when your heights were measured, were you all barefoot or did you keep your shoes on? In one of your posts a few months ago you said you were 5'8 ("172-173 at the moment barefoot, 175-177 in shoes."), now you're saying you were measured at 5'9. Is this because of shoes?
Also, while I can't argue any more based only on my beliefs and the studies on the internet, if your school and your whole regions has a 6'2" average, this means that somewhere in your country there is another region with an average of 5'10" (or maybe more regions with a higher average but still below 6'0"). Have you visited the rest of your country? Is this so?
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