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« on: November 03, 2008, 10:03:31 PM »

Hi there people!

I am set to go for LL op i January 2009.

I have chosen the internal method on my femurs.

However, I am not sure what kind of device to choose.

Going for 7-8 cm, which device is best, Albizzia, Bliskunov or Dr Mitkovic's internal device?

I keep hearing that the internal method doesn't give as much height as the external method, yes or no?

I hope someone have experience and would be willing to share it here on the MMT.

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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2008, 08:20:28 PM »

Seems like this forum has a lot of information about the external method, whereas there seem to be very limited information about the internal method, why is that?

I, myself is still going back and forth trying to decide which method will be best for me.

It seems like Dr Betzīs Albizzia nail has great potential to deliver good height. Itīs a pity I cannot come up with that amount of money.

Surely somebody ought to know something about the Bliskunovmethod, please share it!

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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2008, 08:40:44 PM »


I used the Bliskunov.  It allows up to 12 cm (though be sure to contact Dr Dragan).  I chose it based on Dr Dragan's years of experience and servitude, and the sound mechanics of the device.  The lower cost in comparison to all other internal methods was also very nice.

I stopped at 7.2 cm because I also used the Bliskunov for tibias, totaling 15.2 cm, and wanted to keep my proportions within the non-extreme (or possibly, noticebly uncommon........arm length, head length, foot length, armspan, and torso length were all referenced).

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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2008, 10:34:16 PM »

Going for 7-8 cm, which device is best, Albizzia, Bliskunov or Dr Mitkovic's internal device?

Nobody can say for sure which is best, since there are (as far as I know) no studies that compare these devices. Thus we can only speculate. My experience from other orthopedic devices and surgical methods tells me that if there are several competing methods/devices being used and they have all been available for a reasonable period of time, then none of them is significantly better than the others. The logic behind this is that if one of them actually was superior, most surgeons would switch to this method/device to get better results and/or fewer complications. From what I understand the Albizzia is the oldest device, but this doesn't necessarily mean it's the best. A factor that is equally (if not more) important is the surgeon performing the procedure. How often do they do the procedure? How many have they done total? What complications? Etc.

I keep hearing that the internal method doesn't give as much height as the external method, yes or no?

The only way that an internal method limits lengthening is the design of the nail itself. If I remember correctly the Albizzia is designed for lengthening up to 10cm, though I have read about one of dr Betz's patients who did 11 cm (I forgot how this was done). Most of the people who post diaries of internal femur lengthening have posted gains of 7 - 9 cm. Considering that several LL veterans suggest not lengthening more than 7.5cm per segment the internal methods give more than enough possible height gain, so it's not realy an issue.

Seems like this forum has a lot of information about the external method, whereas there seem to be very limited information about the internal method, why is that?
It seems like Dr Betzīs Albizzia nail has great potential to deliver good height. Itīs a pity I cannot come up with that amount of money.

You have more or less answered your own question: it's all about money. External tibias costs a lot less money than internal methods.

In my opinion, if money had not been an issue I think a lot more people would do internal femur with the Albizzia method, either by dr Betz or dr Guichet. Last time I checked the prices Betz charged just over 40,000 Euros, and that included only the two first weeks of hospital stay, after that you either go home or rent a room in Germany, paying extra for maids, physiotherapy, food etc. For half the price you can go to China and stay there for your whole lengthening "all inclusive", thus saving a minimum of 20,000 Euros (roughly $25,000). After taxes, that's what many people make in a year, or it's enough to buy you a new car, etc. So it's no coincidence that there are many more diaries about external than internal lengthening.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2008, 01:52:31 AM »

what about the clinics in america with Dr. payley and dr. cole?

aren't they considered good?

if money was not an issue at all, which would be the best doctor/clinic to perform internal?

is ISKD the less painful/less scars/quickest method for tibia? and femur? albizzia?

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2008, 07:59:04 PM »

what about the clinics in america with Dr. payley and dr. cole?

aren't they considered good?

if money was not an issue at all, which would be the best doctor/clinic to perform internal?

is ISKD the less painful/less scars/quickest method for tibia? and femur? albizzia?

thanks

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