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Author Topic: Russian scientists develop an alternative way of growing taller using step cells  (Read 78366 times)
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2012, 12:19:51 AM »

Thats why I don't think this is how it works. . .  Nobody knows anything about this new procedure.  So let's first figure out how this works. 
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2012, 10:01:37 AM »

I think that stem cells would fit into LL as a consolidation speed-up. Let's say you don't do LON and just do externals - simply lengthen for 3 months as usual, then they replace the bone callus with the stem cell matrix and you're good to go in days or weeks. This would shorten a full non-LON LL from around 8 months to (possibly) less than 4 months.

Stem cells could very realistically half the time of LL.
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2012, 11:15:35 AM »

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I think that stem cells would fit into LL as a consolidation speed-up. Let's say you don't do LON and just do externals - simply lengthen for 3 months as usual, then they replace the bone callus with the stem cell matrix and you're good to go in days or weeks. This would shorten a full non-LON LL from around 8 months to (possibly) less than 4 months.

Stem cells could very realistically half the time of LL.

good post Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2012, 07:41:26 PM »

Quote from: Dryani link=topic=4447. msg52392#msg52392 date=1329040897
I think that stem cells would fit into LL as a consolidation speed-up.  Let's say you don't do LON and just do externals - simply lengthen for 3 months as usual, then they replace the bone callus with the stem cell matrix and you're good to go in days or weeks.  This would shorten a full non-LON LL from around 8 months to (possibly) less than 4 months. 

Stem cells could very realistically half the time of LL.

But they are talking about an alternative method for LL. . .  So I guess this "Stem cell" thing has nothing to do with the  current LL process. . .  I could be wrong but I am just reading the article and it says it's a whole new path in Limb Lengthening.  Also, they are talking about growing facial bones and probably the spinal in future wich is not possible with the current methods. 

Btw, I am very suprised that there is so little interest in this.  I can't find much about it.  Why do people keep talking about LL while there is probably an much safer option within like 6 - 12 months?
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2012, 11:15:02 PM »

Btw, I am very suprised that there is so little interest in this.  I can't find much about it.  Why do people keep talking about LL while there is probably an much safer option within like 6 - 12 months?

There is absolutely no way this will be available for cosmetic leg lengthening in 6-12 months. It won't even be available to us in the next 6-12 years in all likelyhood. Personally, I'd rather be taller now than wait around for medical technology to find a better way to become taller.
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« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2012, 01:57:39 PM »

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There is absolutely no way this will be available for cosmetic leg lengthening in 6-12 months.  It won't even be available to us in the next 6-12 years in all likelyhood.  Personally, I'd rather be taller now than wait around for medical technology to find a better way to become taller.

Plastic surgery knows hardly any limits in making women as beautiful as they can afford.  Even the most undistinguished clinics can provide their clients with breasts of any size and hourglass waists.  However, long legs have until recently remained beyond their wildest dreams - until Russian surgeons invented a stem cell technique and tested it on sheep.
Until recently, the Ilizarov frame was the only option to lengthen or reshape limb bones, as well as to treat complex and open bone fractures.  However, any woman whose self-esteem is impaired by not having legs up to her neck will soon be offered a different way.  That path is not paved with roses either, but even high technology cannot cancel the old truth about beauty knowing no pain.
Specialists from the Cell Technology Center at Russia's Veterinary Academy have completed a four-year experiment to extend bone tissue.  They have tested their method on a hundred sheep, implanting in their hind leg bones a porous implant (matrix) impregnated with stem cells taken from the animal earlier.  In fact a sheep's legs have comparable structure and bear a similar load to human ones.
The experiment has successfully led to the implant's biodegradation and replacement with absolutely natural living bone tissue.
"This technique will help lengthen limb bones by up to 8 cm, and only because muscles and skin cannot be stretched further," said project leader Alexander Teplyashin.
In addition to fulfilling many women's wildest dreams, the new technique will be widely used in disaster medicine.  It will help treat survivors with problem bone fractures who would have otherwise faced limb amputation.
"It will become possible to replace the fractured part of any bone, even the skull, with a stem cell matrix," Teplyashin said.
Dr Davud Dervishov, head of the Academy's immunology department, shares his colleague's enthusiasm.
The project is now pending official approval of clinical tests.  So hopefully, the women looking with envy at models on glossy covers won't have to wait long.

Give me one reason why this wouldn't be available for cosmetic reason.  They approved the ilizarov technique for cosmetic use and this is probably much safer. 
I have to agree that it will be hard to be available in 6-12 months ( But they are already working 5 years on it by now.  ). 

Besides I am not "hoping" for this to become available soon.  I am curious about the process as it isn't clear for me.  And I am still very young so I am not in a hurry :).
So if anyone knows more, I would love to hear it.
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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2012, 02:42:45 PM »

repelsteeljtie, sysop is correct this will take many many years. and your research is a dead end!!! it will never help in leg lengthening surgery in any way, it will help trauma patients only!!!!!

a matrix is inserted and then allows the body to slowly absorb it and replace it with new biological tissue......

well if you got short leggs where exactly do you think their going to put it.

your scenario would only help a ll patient in the case of non union, or in trauma patients to speed recovery. this technology is of no use if there isnt a gap in the bones to begin with , the only way to make a gap is to shatter the bone in a car crash or to lengthen the bone with the lisorov. the only research that will help replace ll is the work being done by haraldo. however that is many years off if they can ever arrange funding.
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« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2012, 10:11:01 PM »

Well I didn't say he wasn't.  I just didn't/don't know how the whole thing works.
So I am/was looking for an answer of someone who knows more about it.  
I was just curious about it Tongue.  

But how do you know how it works exactly?
And why are they talking about cosmetic if it won't be available for people within like 30 years?    

Don't get me wrong, I am just looking for answers, because I find this subject is very interesting.  

And what do you mean with only research? There are many studies on bone growing ( not height increasing ).  
But eventually someone will use it for that case.  
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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2012, 01:01:49 PM »

This seems pretty cool, but note that they say the limiting factor is the muscle/tendons stretching, as is with conventional leg-lengthening. It's still going to take a long time, because the stretching of the soft tissue is the limiting factor.

This might cut down consolidation time though, but thats not a huge issue for the Betz/Guichet patients.
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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2012, 10:09:43 PM »

More information on this -

http://edition.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/01/15/growing.bone/index.html
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« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2012, 04:22:29 AM »

just read the article and I don't see how this can relate to using stem cells to grow taller implant new growth plates like the original idea at the beginning of this topic.  But I do see how this could help someone going through LL surgery to heal much quicker which would be awesome.  Cutting down the time for consolidation would help many people out a lot
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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2012, 11:34:25 AM »

just read the article and I don't see how this can relate to using stem cells to grow taller implant new growth plates like the original idea at the beginning of this topic.  But I do see how this could help someone going through LL surgery to heal much quicker which would be awesome.  Cutting down the time for consolidation would help many people out a lot

It's an implant you put into your legs which eventually idintigrates and new bone forms on top of it so theoretically it should have full weight bearing, minimal scaring, less invasive and would only require 1 surgery as the implant automatically disintegrates.

So basically the device is implanted within you and then after the recovery of the operation (like a week or so) you could forget about the device inside you and carry on as normal whilst growing taller.

That's how I think it works anyways... Smiley Would be interesting if more information was released.
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« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2012, 06:08:24 PM »

I would love to try it.  I heard the wanted to try it on people but its in Russia so I doubt anyone outside of Russia can have access to the trial.
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« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2012, 11:19:57 AM »

I would love to try it.  I heard the wanted to try it on people but its in Russia so I doubt anyone outside of Russia can have access to the trial.

Where did you hear this?  Shocked
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« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2012, 02:37:49 PM »

re read the information
you have the wrong idea about what a scaffold is and how it is used.

refer to my original post.
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« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2012, 01:00:22 PM »

We should contact Alexander Teplyashin . .  this article is old he got he's patent for regeneration of bone with stem cells and maybe this treatment is available right now. . . I was trying to find something about him but haven't try anthing helpful like phone number or maill adress . . .  Only an number from reception of Beuty Plaza clinic where he's working
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« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2012, 07:12:58 AM »

recent news on this: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120514161616.htm

it has been designed for injuries of bone and tissue for now , but it has potential for LL too
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« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2012, 09:04:01 AM »

How this will work for LL?
The initial distraction must be directly 6,7 or 8 cm and then fill the gap with this stuff..
Cause if you distract 1 mm,fill the space with this cells,how in the world the bone will distract more to many cm you want?
This does not make sense for LL.
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« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2012, 02:58:47 PM »

I contacted Alexander Teplyashin the inventor. . .  Now waiting for his answer. . .  Hope that will give me good news !!
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« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2012, 12:21:15 PM »

Why people are so negative about this? Some people are talking like they already know how it works and that it is not for LL, you don't know how it works!
In the article they say you can lengthen your legs up to 8cm, but they don't really explain how.  So just believe that they can do it.  They have the knowledge, you don't. 

I'd like to believe that they are close to a more save ( not save ) method of height increase. 

And for all people who say that you have to distract 8cm at once.  Maybe they distract 0,5 cm put in stemcells and then the cells act like a growthplate. .
I mean stemcells can change into anything i've heard. . .   

I don't need any reply on this.  And maybe I am just bullshit talking.  I just want to make you people more optimistic. 
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