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Author Topic: Dryani - External Tibias - Dr. Sarin - 2012 - Taking the Plunge with LON  (Read 67615 times)
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« Reply #760 on: August 12, 2012, 11:29:40 AM »

One of the most ground breaking diaries on the site.  This record along with Crazy's has pretty much been a game changer in terms of the way people view India for this surgery.

I agree on the ground breaking part, as these are the first 'batch' of patients with Dr Sarin. I don't agree on game changer until the patients are actually fully recovered.

I think You have shown dr sarin is a good choice for ll.

That's something I disagree with. How is that conclusion possible when he's not even walking yet. Save it for when he is walking freely.  Somebody complete lengthening but can't even walk. That does not show the doctor is a good choice YET.

I'm not taking the shot at the doctor (he could be really good), it's just some members here are being hasty and making over the top statements. Why I'm not glowing about Dr Sarin, here are the status of the 'key' patient diaries

Crazy +6 -  "I have started walking slowly but due to knee bending and ballerina foot- I face a lot difficulty in walking" - 8 Months after Surgery. To be fair, this is his 2nd LL.

Solid8 -   No update after 1 post around 2 months plus into the process.

Hilltop - "I walk with crutches. I don't go outside much and am staying at home.." - 6 months last post and no more update after that.

Dryani: - just finish lengthening, obviously not fully recovered.

CoolGuySam - see above

It's only fair to say that Sarin COULD be a good choice. If anyone is considering it, at least know what's the situation.  That's how I see it.
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« Reply #761 on: August 12, 2012, 11:47:30 AM »

That's something I disagree with. How is that conclusion possible when he's not even walking yet. Save it for when he is walking freely.  Somebody complete lengthening but can't even walk. That does not show the doctor is a good choice YET.

I agree 100%. You spoke my mind. Smiley
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« Reply #762 on: August 12, 2012, 12:23:13 PM »

I agree 100%. You spoke my mind. Smiley

@Mrincredible I noticed from your footer you are planning to go with dr sarin? When do you plan on doing this?
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« Reply #763 on: August 12, 2012, 12:34:06 PM »

balzakin: Hey! Haven't decided on the exact date yet, but it's going to be at some point between late 2013 to late 2014. I came across MMT just a few days ago via an article on ABC News, so I think the gap will allow me to learn a lot of things (especially if Dr. Sarin is good at what he does).

I have no other doctor in my mind yet. Why do you ask? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #764 on: August 12, 2012, 01:39:20 PM »

I agree on the ground breaking part, as these are the first 'batch' of patients with Dr Sarin. I don't agree on game changer until the patients are actually fully recovered.

You may not agree with the game changer part, but if you were here you would see that Dr. Sarin has a constant influx of patients, many of which don't even use mmt. From the time that I came here 2 months ago till today I have probably met around 15 or so LL patients. The only problem the Dr. is facing is that he is too nice to turn ppl away, so he has been setting everything up on the go.

6 cm in 2 months, no complications, no ballerina, perfect post op x-rays. Consolidation is only a matter of time.

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« Reply #765 on: August 12, 2012, 01:42:42 PM »

You may not agree with the game changer part, but if you were here you would see that Dr. Sarin has a constant influx of patients, many of which don't even use mmt. From the time that I came here 2 months ago till today I have probably met around 15 or so LL patients. The only problem the Dr. is facing is that he is too nice to turn ppl away, so he has been setting everything up on the go.

6 cm in 2 months, no complications, no ballerina, perfect post op x-rays. Consolidation is only a matter of time.



Kaizen, forgive me if you mentioned this in your diary, but what was your pre op routine looking like?  Strength, stretching, etc?
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« Reply #766 on: August 12, 2012, 01:57:12 PM »

Kaizen, forgive me if you mentioned this in your diary, but what was your pre op routine looking like?  Strength, stretching, etc?

I didn't make a diary. Basically once I made up my mind about LL and Dr. Sarin I started doing full leg stretches with a focus on hamstrings and achilles 2 hrs a day everyday for 4 months. Worked out upper body, also spent 10 mins on exercise bike every other day, enough to get my legs in decent shape, but not bulky.
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« Reply #767 on: August 12, 2012, 02:07:50 PM »

Quote from: Kaizen link=topic=4803. msg63236#msg63236 date=1344778760
6 cm in 2 months, no complications, no ballerina, perfect post op x-rays.  Consolidation is only a matter of time. 

Now if only you could've done it without being a whiny little bitc*.

Come at me bro.
No homo
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« Reply #768 on: August 12, 2012, 02:30:29 PM »

Now if only you could've done it without being a whiny little *****.

Come at me bro.
No homo

What's up Bro!, I'm right here Bro! Take a swing Bro!Why you gotta disrespect Bro?!


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« Reply #769 on: August 12, 2012, 03:40:35 PM »

You may not agree with the game changer part, but if you were here you would see that Dr. Sarin has a constant influx of patients, many of which don't even use mmt. From the time that I came here 2 months ago till today I have probably met around 15 or so LL patients. The only problem the Dr. is facing is that he is too nice to turn ppl away, so he has been setting everything up on the go.

6 cm in 2 months, no complications, no ballerina, perfect post op x-rays. Consolidation is only a matter of time.


Your definition of game changer seem to be many patients. My definition is  many patients who are fully recovered. That's the difference.

Your lack of complication and smooth recovery should be credited to the stretching routine which equaled 240 hours. That is many hours of stretching. You can support the idea that stretching extensively before LL will help alot.
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« Reply #770 on: August 12, 2012, 03:59:40 PM »

I didn't make a diary. Basically once I made up my mind about LL and Dr. Sarin I started doing full leg stretches with a focus on hamstrings and achilles 2 hrs a day everyday for 4 months. Worked out upper body, also spent 10 mins on exercise bike every other day, enough to get my legs in decent shape, but not bulky.

2 Hours!?!?! Dedication!  What kind of flexibility could you achieve?

I didn't think you made a Diary but tbh I read so many I forget who's I have read and who's I haven't.

Man I stretch my Hams and Calfs out, but I do about 12-15 minutes a day.  Need to up my game.
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« Reply #771 on: August 12, 2012, 04:21:02 PM »

Yeah I'm hoping dryani, Sam, kaizen and a few other members here keep us updated during and after recovery.  I'm really leaning towards dr sarin sometime between mid 2013-mid2014.
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« Reply #772 on: August 12, 2012, 04:34:12 PM »

2 Hours!?!?! Dedication!  What kind of flexibility could you achieve?

I didn't think you made a Diary but tbh I read so many I forget who's I have read and who's I haven't.

Man I stretch my Hams and Calfs out, but I do about 12-15 minutes a day.  Need to up my game.


If you plan your operation in more than a year two hours is kind of useless for now, except maybe if you're a total block of wood. My girlfriend is super flexible (she can do pretty much all the exercices featured around here to their full extent) and she only stretches for about 10mn per day, but she's been doing it for years.
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« Reply #773 on: August 12, 2012, 04:42:55 PM »

2 Hours!?!?! Dedication!  What kind of flexibility could you achieve?

I didn't think you made a Diary but tbh I read so many I forget who's I have read and who's I haven't.

Man I stretch my Hams and Calfs out, but I do about 12-15 minutes a day.  Need to up my game.

Hmm I could do the splits, palm the floor while standing on 5 inches of mats (random I know, there's a pic somewhere lol). This wasn't all developed in 4 months though, but I did increase my flexibility more by having a strict stretching routine.

Yeah I'm hoping dryani, Sam, kaizen and a few other members here keep us updated during and after recovery.  I'm really leaning towards dr sarin sometime between mid 2013-mid2014.

I know Dryani is planning on writing about his recovery as well, if I don't suddenly loose interest in my second op then I'll still be around the forum and let you guys know when I start walking lol.

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« Reply #774 on: August 12, 2012, 05:15:10 PM »

I didn't make a diary. Basically once I made up my mind about LL and Dr. Sarin I started doing full leg stretches with a focus on hamstrings and achilles 2 hrs a day everyday for 4 months. Worked out upper body, also spent 10 mins on exercise bike every other day, enough to get my legs in decent shape, but not bulky.

Excellent prep my man.
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« Reply #775 on: August 12, 2012, 08:14:36 PM »

I agree on the ground breaking part, as these are the first 'batch' of patients with Dr Sarin. I don't agree on game changer until the patients are actually fully recovered.

That's something I disagree with. How is that conclusion possible when he's not even walking yet. Save it for when he is walking freely.  Somebody complete lengthening but can't even walk. That does not show the doctor is a good choice YET.

I'm not taking the shot at the doctor (he could be really good), it's just some members here are being hasty and making over the top statements. Why I'm not glowing about Dr Sarin, here are the status of the 'key' patient diaries

Crazy +6 -  "I have started walking slowly but due to knee bending and ballerina foot- I face a lot difficulty in walking" - 8 Months after Surgery. To be fair, this is his 2nd LL.

Solid8 -   No update after 1 post around 2 months plus into the process.

Hilltop - "I walk with crutches. I don't go outside much and am staying at home.." - 6 months last post and no more update after that.

Dryani: - just finish lengthening, obviously not fully recovered.

CoolGuySam - see above

It's only fair to say that Sarin COULD be a good choice. If anyone is considering it, at least know what's the situation.  That's how I see it.

I totally respect and agree with you with what you are saying about game changing part. There should not be any decision making by anyone just by reading diaries of us who are still in recovery phase. Probably should wait till we all get recovered in like 3 months to 1 year time.

But with respect I disagree with your comments about me because if you took out a line from my diary about me - you should also read reason behind it which I described many times in different occasions in my diary or in some other posts:-

1) I have done my surgery within 1 year for both limbs
2) I have developed knee straightening problem because of my mistake of not keeping my leg straight during lengthening. This makes me stop standing after lengthening to avoid extreme pressure on my raw callus.
3) Because I did 2 surgeries continuous - I took it very easy in recovery phase and I didn't really put weight for 3 months post lengthening till I get my bone consolidated which was a record breaking consolidation (8 cm in 7 months). So definitely my walking started late due to my own fear of not putting weight on my legs. This point is answer for your "8 months after surgery".

Anyway, I appreciate your "game changer" point. People should consider it game changer when they read recovery completely, see a lot of pictures of recovery, videos of recovery and probably visit or meet them in person. Till then they have these choices:-

1) Stop thinking about LL
2) Wait till they see recovery in diaries
3) Go to places where they can find diaries which are full of recovery posts (Pics, videos)
4) Take a plunge/calculative risk and fulfill their dream and get over it.

CHOICE IS PURELY AND SOLELY PERSONAL !!!!

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« Reply #776 on: August 12, 2012, 08:40:28 PM »

Excellent Crazy !  Grin Cool
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« Reply #777 on: August 12, 2012, 09:08:49 PM »

Excellent Crazy !  Grin Cool

 Grin Grin
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« Reply #778 on: August 12, 2012, 09:10:38 PM »

I mention your 2nd LL to make the point on lack of recovered patients, not saying you couldn't recover after 8 months under normal circumstances. It is useful that you elaborate that for everyone again.

My definition of fully recovered is simply the members themselves saying so. No need for photos or videos, not that there's much of them since the recent ST diaries updates anyway.

Out of your choice, I agree with last 3, not first 1. Otherwise 90% of us shouldn't be on this forum.

I totally respect and agree with you with what you are saying about game changing part.  Probably should wait till we all get recovered in like 3 months to 1 year time.

But with respect I disagree with your comments about me because if you took out a line from my diary about me. I appreciate your "game changer" point. Till then they have these choices:-
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« Reply #779 on: August 13, 2012, 06:36:50 AM »

I mention your 2nd LL to make the point on lack of recovered patients, not saying you couldn't recover after 8 months under normal circumstances. It is useful that you elaborate that for everyone again.

My definition of fully recovered is simply the members themselves saying so. No need for photos or videos, not that there's much of them since the recent ST diaries updates anyway.

Out of your choice, I agree with last 3, not first 1. Otherwise 90% of us shouldn't be on this forum.


100% agree with your definition of recovery.
As far as photos are concerned, I don't think you have read my both diaries and Dryani's diary completely. There are plenty of photos posted by me including X rays. Also, Its not possible for any LL patient to post everyday picture. I think some photos are more than enough to understand.

For recovery photos, stay tuned - that will come to forum but when I want it - not by demand.

Glad to know you have kept 3 choices out of 4. I wish you all the best in your research.

God Bless
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