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« Reply #160 on: July 30, 2013, 10:14:03 PM »

Btw @Sweden, would the LL procedure be less expensive for doing only 3 cms? Obviously since the lengthening phase is shorter it would be cheaper to rent a hotel and other side costs etc, is healing process shorter as well when lengthening less? You say 1 month but I have heard people saying it taking several months to heal.

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« Reply #161 on: July 30, 2013, 10:59:39 PM »

Btw @Sweden, would the LL procedure be less expensive for doing only 3 cms? Obviously since the lengthening phase is shorter it would be cheaper to rent a hotel and other side costs etc, is healing process shorter as well when lengthening less? You say 1 month but I have heard people saying it taking several months to heal.



Only Dr Mirzoyan will do 3cm for you and then external only probably.

It's pointless to even reconsider doing 3cm. If you feel that you have to do this then do 4,5cm and you will have as close to no problems at all.
After 6-7 months you're back to work close to normal.

Fast nånting säger mig att du helt enkelt inte kommer göra detta. Läs på ordentligt och sätt dig in i vad det verkligen handlar om.
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« Reply #162 on: July 30, 2013, 11:52:09 PM »

Quote from: Sweden link=topic=28. msg84017#msg84017 date=1375225179
Only Dr Mirzoyan will do 3cm for you and then external only probably. 

It's pointless to even reconsider doing 3cm.  If you feel that you have to do this then do 4,5cm and you will have as close to no problems at all. 
After 6-7 months you're back to work close to normal. 

Fast nånting säger mig att du helt enkelt inte kommer göra detta.  Läs på ordentligt och sätt dig in i vad det verkligen handlar om. 

I will do this procedure if nothing new has come up during the first half of 2014.  Some alternative that might work for people who only need small increases.  I know for sure that my life would be perfect in my eyes if I could reach this height.  I have worked on my insecurities and physical problems all my life and this is pretty much the last one I got, The bigger portion of my life of regulary being disrespected and feeling inferior has formed my personality.  I know I can only be happy if I eliminate all of my percieveable weaknesses, 3 cm will make me average in height while im below average as I am right now. 

Jag vet vad det handlar om.  Fysisk smärta har aldrig varit ett problem för mig.  Det som gör det här till ett så svårt beslut är just det faktum att jag inte vill att någon förutom min familj ska veta att jag har gjort det.  Samt så känns priset alldeles för högt för 3 cm när det kanske kommer nått nytt som kan ge små längdökningar under de kommande åren.  Jag testar redan LSJL och tror faktiskt att det kan fungera.  fast 10. 000 dollar kan jag definitivt tänka mig betala, och det var för 5 cm, men jag tar hellre ett lägre pris för 3 cm om det e möjligt då jag kan komma tillbaka till det normala livet snabbare.

 Då jag bara behöver 3 cm och är 23 år så kommer de flesta bekanta inte märka skillnaden och de som gör det kommer bortförklara det som en sen växtspurt.  En skillnad på 3 cm kommer inte få folk att börja snacka om det öppet iaf.  Men om jag behöver vara på sjukhus/vara orörlig i benen i 2 månader för 3 cm så kan jag tänka mig att offra en sommar för det, men då e frågan hur länge jag behöver gå på kryckor efter det.  Jag skulle kunna skylla kryckorna på en olycka/skada iofs. 
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« Reply #163 on: July 31, 2013, 12:55:58 AM »

Jeg ville definitivt minst forlenget 4 cm, og mer sannsynlig ca 5. Du kan fortsatt bruke skade-unnskyldingen din, og om noen spør om hvorfor du er så "mye" høyere så sier du det er fordi skaden din krevde at du fikk forlenget bena litt.

Du virker rimelig sikker på at kun 3 cm ekstra vil gjøre livet ditt "perfekt", men det høres litt merkelig ut. Har du verifisert dette på noen måte, ved å enkelt og greit gå med noen billige lifts som gir deg 3 cm ekstra i skoene, over lengre tid? Null risiko ved å forsøke det først iallfall.
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« Reply #164 on: July 31, 2013, 06:01:01 AM »

Quote from: jenslarsen link=topic=28. msg84022#msg84022 date=1375232158
Jeg ville definitivt minst forlenget 4 cm, og mer sannsynlig ca 5.  Du kan fortsatt bruke skade-unnskyldingen din, og om noen spør om hvorfor du er så "mye" høyere så sier du det er fordi skaden din krevde at du fikk forlenget bena litt.

Du virker rimelig sikker på at kun 3 cm ekstra vil gjøre livet ditt "perfekt", men det høres litt merkelig ut.  Har du verifisert dette på noen måte, ved å enkelt og greit gå med noen billige lifts som gir deg 3 cm ekstra i skoene, over lengre tid? Null risiko ved å forsøke det først iallfall.

Im already using "lifts" because im flatfooted, but it doesnt cut it for me, I want to "feel" and know that Im one of the "average" guys when it comes to height.  In my head it just feels fake with lifts and while it helps in nightclubs a bit it still doesnt make me feel whole and happy.  I want to be 178 for real.

And for me 3 cm would be preferred over 4 or 5 cm if it meant shorter time in the hospital and until im walking again, as well as it being significantly cheaper.  If what Sweden is saying is true, that you can get it done in 2 montsh for 3 cm, and then walk on crutches a bit after that, and if the cheapest price is 10. 000 dollars in India for 5 cm and if im able to get it even cheaper by doing 3, then I would do it next summer since I will finish my University program by then.  However it seems only a few doctors will do 3 cm so that might be a problem as well.
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« Reply #165 on: August 01, 2013, 05:58:36 PM »

Dear Wannabegiant,
thanks for your request. Unfortunately we haven´t made much progress (mostly due to a lack of active supporters, who share our vision of a safe and effective biomedical height increase therapy). So there is unfortunately no possibility, that there will be a good alternative to LL surgery during the first half of 2014.
@jenslarsen: Concerning the P.O. Box-adress: I would be more than happy to create an official organization with a formal postal adress. But that would require at least 5 people in one country, who would be brave enough to reveal their identity to the public in connection with height increase research ... and that has been impossible during the last few years.
And we can´t be a scam, as we don´t request money from "normal" people ... we are looking for wealthy donators or (angel) investors, that could visit the involved researchers at their university laboratories before making a final funding decision.
Still every support for this goal would be very welcome! I am still convinced, that medical research has arrived at a point, that could turn this vision into reality, if there was sufficient funding. 
Best regards
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« Reply #166 on: August 01, 2013, 06:33:00 PM »

Dear Wannabegiant,
thanks for your request. Unfortunately we haven´t made much progress (mostly due to a lack of active supporters, who share our vision of a safe and effective biomedical height increase therapy). So there is unfortunately no possibility, that there will be a good alternative to LL surgery during the first half of 2014.
@jenslarsen: Concerning the P.O. Box-adress: I would be more than happy to create an official organization with a formal postal adress. But that would require at least 5 people in one country, who would be brave enough to reveal their identity to the public in connection with height increase research ... and that has been impossible during the last few years.
And we can´t be a scam, as we don´t request money from "normal" people ... we are looking for wealthy donators or (angel) investors, that could visit the involved researchers at their university laboratories before making a final funding decision.
Still every support for this goal would be very welcome! I am still convinced, that medical research has arrived at a point, that could turn this vision into reality, if there was sufficient funding. 
Best regards
Harald
 

No worries Harald, Im just happy that someone is working on this problem. I just want to feel average in height as soon as possible. So if I end up doing LL for 4 cms the next summer 2014, and someone manages to come up with an cheaper and less invasive alternative after that. Then I might try that as well to get even taller as long as it doesnt require as much sacrifice as LL does. I know I will be satisfied with being average but if an easy option existed obviously people would go for more height.

Btw Initially I didnt really belive it could be possible to get taller without some type of invasive method like surgery, injecting stem cells etc. But after reading this I definitely think it is possible, and that money is the real problem.

http://www.naturalheightgrowth.com/2013/07/13/increase-height-and-grow-taller-using-vitamin-k2-aka-menaquinone/

Apparantly some type of daily Vitamin K2 supplement was able to increase a womans length with 3 cm over a period of about 6 months. But she was suffering from osteoporosis. maybe that condition weakens the bones enough and lessens their denisty, to allow them to stretch and grow from the Vitamin K2.

I defintitely think this project could be succesful if you got the money. Best of luck Harald
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« Reply #167 on: August 06, 2013, 04:33:25 AM »

Hi guys i am new to the forum and since i dont know how to open a new thread ill ask here if its ok with you. . . im 170cm and im 24 years old. I feel like a midget tbh. . . . i come from the eastern Europe(Balkans) where most of people are 180+. . . most of my friends are 185-190cm or more. . . My mom is really short and i am on her i guess. I searched solutions or better to say alternatives for operation,cus i dont have the money or the balls to do operation. I saw video that promises increase in height. . . this is the site http: www.  widershoulderbones.  com. . . im not advertising or anything. . . . i just wanna see all solutions since noone mentioned this in the 'scam part' so wondering if someone have tried and seen this?Thanks so much guys. . .
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« Reply #168 on: August 06, 2013, 07:51:42 AM »

Hi guys i am new to the forum and since i dont know how to open a new thread ill ask here if its ok with you. . . im 170cm and im 24 years old. I feel like a midget tbh. . . . i come from the eastern Europe(Balkans) where most of people are 180+. . . most of my friends are 185-190cm or more. . . My mom is really short and i am on her i guess. I searched solutions or better to say alternatives for operation,cus i dont have the money or the balls to do operation. I saw video that promises increase in height. . . this is the site http: www.  widershoulderbones.  com. . . im not advertising or anything. . . . i just wanna see all solutions since noone mentioned this in the 'scam part' so wondering if someone have tried and seen this?Thanks so much guys. . .

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« Reply #169 on: August 07, 2013, 09:14:58 PM »

Any updates? I support this 100 percent, and hoping for cure for short stature without LL in the future!
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« Reply #170 on: August 08, 2013, 08:45:08 PM »

hello friends , i am sorry to put this thread because i cant creat new in possible alternatives forum

so,this page claims growing taller without surgery
it is scam?

Using An Electrical Pulse Massager Physiotherapy Device To Increase Longitudinal Growth In Vivo For Open Growth Plates (Big Breakthrough)


hxxp: www. naturalheightgrowth. com/author/admin/
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« Reply #171 on: February 27, 2014, 11:00:24 AM »

Hello Harold. I was wondering if you could give us a 2014 update on how things are going and how we might be able to help your initiative, if possible. Your initiative seems very worthwhile, especially if it carries the potential to allow for safe height/length gain in areas other than the legs. Anyways, I hope the project it still in the works, and, if so, I wish you the very best of luck. I look forward to your response.

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« Reply #172 on: February 27, 2014, 06:24:34 PM »

Dear MiracleGrow,
thanks for your request.
Unfortunately still no major news ... and personally I don´t have much time for supporting height increase research anymore.
But we have a very motivated new Biomedical Growth Research Initiative (BGRI) -member in the USA, who tries to get some support in this very important country. So especially if you live in the USA, you will be very much invited to join these efforts. Connecting by the internet is good, but personal contacts are better, of course. And maybe we could even create an official growth research organization (not just an initiative) in the foreseeable future.
And still we need a new webmaster in order to update our homepage and do some Search Engine Optimization.
There are of course many, many other ways to help ... so still EVERY support is welcome, in order to make progress for our common goal - a safe and effective height increase therapy!
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« Reply #173 on: February 27, 2014, 06:30:58 PM »

P.S.: Every interested support can still contact me by e-mail: harald_oberlaender@hotmail.com
I would establish a personal contact with the new US-BGRI-chapter.
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« Reply #174 on: February 27, 2014, 06:55:22 PM »

P.P.S.: As long as we are unable to start specific biomedical height increase research projects, I have some hopes e.g. concerning the regenerative medicine projects of the US army. Their main aim is the regeneration of severe injuries, like e.g. lost limbs. But of course I hope, that the principles concerning the regeneration of lost limb tissue may be modified for the indication limb lengthening. Here are some interesting links concerning these efforts:
http://www.bu.edu/sjmag/scimag2008/Story%20pages/DARPA.html
http://www.wpi.edu/news/20089/cellthera.html
http://www.news-record.com/news/article_7619f0da-9ee9-11e3-bcdc-0017a43b2370.html
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« Reply #175 on: February 27, 2014, 11:07:54 PM »

Thanks for your detailed and thorough response, Harald. I am majoring in biomedical engineering myself at the moment and feel very inclined to become more involved with your projects once I have gained sufficient knowledge and resources (contacts, credentials, funding, time etc.) to feel that I can be of significant help. Time and funding are the biggest issues for me at the moment, but I hope that out paths may cross in the future. You seem like a very good guy with great goals and interests. Please update us if any significant progress is made.

If, during my time at university, should I meet a professor or research group interested in height-increase related BME projects (like you said, these seem to be few), I'll definitely let them know about your initiative. Helping people's body images and self concepts definitely makes the world a better place and it's wonderful to see that initiatives related to height do exist, though the may be small. Here's to hoping that advancements can be made in the not-too-distant future.

Cheers,
MiracleGrow


PS. How did you become involved in the army's tissue regeneration research? I'd like to get involved in this field as well.
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« Reply #176 on: March 01, 2014, 09:15:30 AM »

Dear MiracleGrow,

the BGRI is not connected with the US Army research programs. I just consider that an interesting way of research also for the indication height increase.

If you send me a personal e-mail, we can discuss ways, how you could get involved in these or other limb regeneration research projects.

Best wishes
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« Reply #177 on: April 19, 2014, 05:11:35 PM »

Not a good solution, I think.
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