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Author Topic: Why Torso Length Doesn't Matter, But Arm Length Does  (Read 92883 times)
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« Reply #80 on: December 18, 2012, 12:41:57 AM »

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I think he measured his sitting height wrong.   My sitting height is 93 and my legs aren't short, they're averagely proportioned.
How do you figure I measured my sitting height wrong? Do you think it should be more or less than 93cm?
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« Reply #81 on: December 18, 2012, 12:55:36 AM »

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I think he measured his sitting height wrong.   My sitting height is 93 and my legs aren't short, they're averagely proportioned.
I think what he meant is that because my arms are so long my legs are short for my arms.

Repelsteeltje: What is the proper way to measure wingspan? I measured from fingertip to fingertip with arms outstretched.  I'm not going to a doc just to get my wingspan measured.  I figure I could be off by a cm but even still I have a very tall wingspan.  Apotheosis said his sitting height was 93 or so.  He lengthened to 190cm I think and no one here thinks he looks unproportioned.  Then again look at Michael Strahan who has a sitting height of 36" (91. 44cm) at 6'5"(195. 5cm).  Isn't the point of this thread that torso length doesn't matter within a certain range? What percentage do you think is good proportions? What percentage would I be at 186cm as opposed to 189cm?
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« Reply #82 on: December 18, 2012, 01:04:23 AM »

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16cm taller wingspan than height? A little advice, go see the doctor or remeasure yourself. . .
Such a difference isn't naturally.

Also 93cm sitting height is pretty average for 175cm.  You are having slightly shorter legs than average.
At 93cm sitting height your cosmetic maximum height should be 186cm. 

I don't want to discourage you if your goal is to reach 189cm.  But, my advice is to go for 186cm.  The only real difference between 186cm and 189cm is that you would look better at 186cm.  At 186cm you are already tall. 
Ok I remeasured and this time I didn't stretch so much.  I got 190cm.  Still over what I want to lengthen to.  What do you think guys? 186 or 189? Should I post pics for mockup?
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« Reply #83 on: December 18, 2012, 01:08:38 AM »

Ok I remeasured and this time I didn't stretch so much.  I got 190cm.  Still over what I want to lengthen to.  What do you think guys? 186 or 189? Should I post pics for mockup?

You should definitely choose 189 cm if your wingspan allows it.
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« Reply #84 on: December 18, 2012, 01:13:01 AM »

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You should definitely choose 189 cm if your wingspan allows it.
Thanks! I agree.  I've always known I had long arms.  I can grab the rim on a 10ft basketball hoop at 5'9" jumping from a standstill.  I know I can't jump that high my long arms are what gives me that extra reach.
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« Reply #85 on: December 18, 2012, 04:04:56 AM »

I think what he meant is that because my arms are so long my legs are short for my arms.

Repelsteeltje: What is the proper way to measure wingspan? I measured from fingertip to fingertip with arms outstretched.  I'm not going to a doc just to get my wingspan measured.  I figure I could be off by a cm but even still I have a very tall wingspan.  Apotheosis said his sitting height was 93 or so.  He lengthened to 190cm I think and no one here thinks he looks unproportioned.  Then again look at Michael Strahan who has a sitting height of 36" (91. 44cm) at 6'5"(195. 5cm).  Isn't the point of this thread that torso length doesn't matter within a certain range? What percentage do you think is good proportions? What percentage would I be at 186cm as opposed to 189cm?

to measure your wingspan you need to stand with your back next to a wall, arms outstretched, and measure the distance from fingertip to fingertip on the wall.
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« Reply #86 on: December 18, 2012, 04:21:56 AM »

Then again look at Michael Strahan who has a sitting height of 36" (91. 44cm) at 6'5"(195. 5cm). 

I was curious about this so I googled it, and found this article http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/size_matters_pTOs5Bnv015ODKhYLSNhvN.
I believe here is where you've read it. Mind you, the distance from the tip of the tailbone to the top of the head is not sitting height. There are another 5 cm or more from the tip of the tailbone to where your butt ends (where it touches the chair you're sitting on).
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« Reply #87 on: December 18, 2012, 08:41:20 AM »

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to measure your wingspan you need to stand with your back next to a wall, arms outstretched, and measure the distance from fingertip to fingertip on the wall.
This is what I did I got 190cm.  I think everyone measures sitting height from the the the level of where they're sitting on to the top of their head.  Thats the only way to do it.
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« Reply #88 on: December 18, 2012, 11:11:55 AM »

This is what I did I got 190cm.  I think everyone measures sitting height from the the the level of where they're sitting on to the top of their head.  Thats the only way to do it.

You were sitting erect though when you measured sitting height though weren't you?
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« Reply #89 on: December 18, 2012, 01:50:11 PM »

Repelsteeltje: What is the proper way to measure wingspan? I measured from fingertip to fingertip with arms outstretched.  I'm not going to a doc just to get my wingspan measured.  I figure I could be off by a cm but even still I have a very tall wingspan.  Apotheosis said his sitting height was 93 or so.  He lengthened to 190cm I think and no one here thinks he looks unproportioned.  Then again look at Michael Strahan who has a sitting height of 36" (91. 44cm) at 6'5"(195. 5cm).  Isn't the point of this thread that torso length doesn't matter within a certain range? What percentage do you think is good proportions? What percentage would I be at 186cm as opposed to 189cm?

At 186cm with a sitting height of 93cm your ratio would be 50%. Many LL surgeons say that you shouldn't go under that in cosmetic cases. Of course their are exceptions who are having an ratio under 50% even naturally. But, that doesn't mean it looks good. Some will look good in clothes because of tall wingspan. But if they would take of their clothes you will see that it looks disproportioned. The point of this thread is indeed that torso length doesn't matter and you shouldn't worry too much about it if you want to reach your goal. But this counts more for people who are 165cm and want to be 180cm. For you ( 175cm ) you are already about average. At 186cm you would be tall and with your starting proportions you probably would look great at this height. Why bother those 3cm which could make you look a little bit of? This way you could reach your goal with 5,5cm on each segment instead of 7cm each, which is much safer.

It's your decision of course. Just want to give you some advice Smiley.
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« Reply #90 on: December 18, 2012, 07:50:41 PM »

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You were sitting erect though when you measured sitting height though weren't you?
By sitting erect you mean sitting up straight? Am I supposed to be slouching.  I turned a chair sideways and was sitting with my back against a wall.
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« Reply #91 on: December 18, 2012, 07:53:23 PM »

By sitting erect you mean sitting up straight? Am I supposed to be slouching.  I turned a chair sideways and was sitting with my back against a wall.

Sitting up straight yes.  Measure again.  93cm is not that much at 175. 
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« Reply #92 on: December 18, 2012, 07:58:10 PM »

Quote from: Repelsteeltje link=topic=5506. msg71088#msg71088 date=1355838611
At 186cm with a sitting height of 93cm your ratio would be 50%.  Many LL surgeons say that you shouldn't go under that in cosmetic cases.  Of course their are exceptions who are having an ratio under 50% even naturally.  But, that doesn't mean it looks good.  Some will look good in clothes because of tall wingspan.  But if they would take of their clothes you will see that it looks disproportioned.  The point of this thread is indeed that torso length doesn't matter and you shouldn't worry too much about it if you want to reach your goal.  But this counts more for people who are 165cm and want to be 180cm.  For you ( 175cm ) you are already about average.  At 186cm you would be tall and with your starting proportions you probably would look great at this height.  Why bother those 3cm which could make you look a little bit of? This way you could reach your goal with 5,5cm on each segment instead of 7cm each, which is much safer. 

It's your decision of course.  Just want to give you some advice :).
Yes valid points.  Keep in mind 3cm is only 1. 18 inches and going over by that little I don't think would be noticeable.  I have the same sitting hight as apotheosis but with longer arms.  Some people naturally have shorter torsos, ie Michael Strahan, the one mentioned at the beginning this thread.  He is African American though.  I'm still debating what to do.  My tibias are short so I think I will just do 8cm on tibias to start with.  If I still want extra height I will come back and do 5cm on femurs which heal faster.  That would put total lengthening at 13cm and i would be 188cm (6'2").
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« Reply #93 on: December 18, 2012, 08:10:53 PM »

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Sitting up straight yes.   Measure again.   93cm is not that much at 175.  
measured two more times this time really stretching my back and got 94cm and 93. 75cm.
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« Reply #94 on: December 18, 2012, 08:16:29 PM »

Lets just say for the sake of this argument that my sitting height is 94cm in the morning and 93cm at night  Wink
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« Reply #95 on: December 18, 2012, 08:27:19 PM »

measured two more times this time really stretching my back and got 94cm and 93. 75cm.

That's strange.  I have a similar sitting height to you, but my legs aren't short at all.
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« Reply #96 on: December 18, 2012, 08:52:05 PM »

That's strange.  I have a similar sitting height to you, but my legs aren't short at all.
Yeah I'm not strangely disproportionate. I just have really long arms. With that torso length you could lengthen to 183cm (7cm) nicely depending on your arms. What is your wingspan?
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« Reply #97 on: December 18, 2012, 09:01:53 PM »

Yeah I'm not strangely disproportionate. I just have really long arms. With that torso length you could lengthen to 183cm (7cm) nicely depending on your arms. What is your wingspan?

182 I think.
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« Reply #98 on: January 02, 2013, 04:28:47 PM »

setting height !!! interesting i have notice in every where i go ppl who are over weight or fat have setting height higher than skinny ppl who are a bit  taller than them . and if 2 are the same height who ever got more weight got more setting height ...
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« Reply #99 on: January 02, 2013, 07:02:25 PM »

setting height !!! interesting i have notice in every where i go ppl who are over weight or fat have setting height higher than skinny ppl who are a bit  taller than them . and if 2 are the same height who ever got more weight got more setting height ...

Yes, it is true. If you have a big fat butt you will have a higher sitting height than you will when you are skinny. If you are concerned about your sitting height, you can just get really fat and you will sit an inch or two higher.
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