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« on: May 08, 2014, 02:40:53 PM »

Here is an interesting comparison of two athletes shown in the study of bodies that was posted above. Here we have 5' 5" Cary Kolat and 6' 2" Amy Acuff. I've taken Amy's legs and put them on Cary's body to show what he would look like with long thin legs. Putting her legs on his body makes him about 6' 1". This is an increased of around 8", which is more than most people should lengthen.

Cary seems to have pretty short arms to start with, even for a guy of 5' 5" (in the photo above, Jennifer Parilla at 5' 1" seems to have longer arms, particularly her radius and ulna). I think if he was lengthened 6" (15 CM) to 5' 11" (180 CM) he would still look ok. At that point, he may have short arms, but he would still look better proportionally than he did at 5' 5". at 6' 1" he almost needs AL on his humerus to look normal, and then he still has very short forearms. While I think most of us would prefer to be 6' 1" with short forearms than 5' 5", I also think that the vast majority of us would prefer to be 5' 11", not have to do AL, and still look reasonably normal.



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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2014, 03:24:27 PM »

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Here is an interesting comparison of two athletes shown in the study of bodies that was posted above.  Here we have 5' 5" Cary Kolat and 6' 2" Amy Acuff.  I've taken Amy's legs and put them on Cary's body to show what he would look like with long thin legs.  Putting her legs on his body makes him about 6' 1".  This is an increased of around 8", which is more than most people should lengthen.  

Cary seems to have pretty short arms to start with, even for a guy of 5' 5" (in the photo above, Jennifer Parilla at 5' 1" seems to have longer arms, particularly her radius and ulna).  I think if he was lengthened 6" (15 CM) to 5' 11" (180 CM) he would still look ok.  At that point, he may have short arms, but he would still look better proportionally than he did at 5' 5".  at 6' 1" he almost needs AL on his humerus to look normal, and then he still has very short forearms.  While I think most of us would prefer to be 6' 1" with short forearms than 5' 5", I also think that the vast majority of us would prefer to be 5' 11", not have to do AL, and still look reasonably normal.


Thanks for the image, it's very useful for seeing how LL affects proportions.

From first glance, he looks perfectly normal at 6'1 with no AL.  He does look better with AL but I think he can just about pull off 6'1.  If this was a bodybuilding forum and we were posting pictures of ourselves, I don't think anyone would notice his arms are short for his body, the point is that proportions are only noticeable when someone mentions them.  He definitely looks good at 5'11.  I think he also looks slightly weird because obviously they're not his legs, but if they were his legs then I think he'd look even better.  If he were wearing clothes, he'd look perfectly normal in my opinion.

Slightly off-topic but why do many seem to be against AL? Is it easier than LL in terms of pain and recovery time? And is it as expensive?
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2014, 03:31:17 PM »


Slightly off-topic but why do many seem to be against AL? Is it easier than LL in terms of pain and recovery time? And is it as expensive?

I considered AL before, but now when I experienced LL i can easily say that I would NEVER do this to my arms.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2014, 03:39:40 PM »

Slightly off-topic but why do many seem to be against AL? Is it easier than LL in terms of pain and recovery time? And is it as expensive?

The main reason many people are against AL is because most people don't really need it. Having longer legs makes you taller, which has a measurable benefit for most LL patients. Having longer arms doesn't have much benefit for most people.

The humerus is very similar to the femur as far as lengthening is concerned, and lengthening it is said to be similar in pain and recovery time to femur lengthening. Since most surgeons that do AL do one arm at a time, an AL patient is generally much more functional than an LL patient.

Very few doctors perform AL on an elective basis. Most that do charge the same amount for one arm that they would for one leg.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2014, 05:12:56 PM »

What do you all think about the idea of having longer humeri than forearms? Would/Does it look bad on men? Can it be worse-looking than arms that are too short?
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2014, 01:23:42 AM »

By the way, Cary Kolat's proportions at 6'1 with AL look SEXY in my eyes with AL (no homo  Cool ). But I seriously wouldn't mind those proportions after LL.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2014, 04:52:56 AM »



LOL, I can't get past the fact that he's a man from the waist up & a girly man from the waist down. Smiley You should of widened his legs SysOp. Grin At least you put boy shorts on him....
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2014, 05:24:02 AM »

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Hey Yogaman,

Like those who've replied to your first post, I have to agree that you may need to consider a more realistic goal (especially given proportions).   In addition, from what I've read on MMT, AL (Arm Lengthening) is not favored by those who have undergone LL, and it is understandable given the extra cost, stretching, time and pain and lack of overall 'gain' or benefit.  

I'm not one to shoot someone's dreams down, I have no right or desire to do so.   Perhaps some before/after mockups without elevator shoes would be a good idea? With modest increase of tibia/fibia.  

Best of luck regardless! Smiley




Sorry what is the reasons people suggest not to do Arm lengthening after the limbs?
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2014, 05:52:47 AM »

Sorry if I made out that AL was a bad thing or something you shouldn't do.

I believe Ocean even commented just before your first post. .  is that you'd have to be crazy to do AL.  Due to the cost (of time, money and discomfort) not being worth the gain for proportion cosmetically.

There are other posts in Proportions Discussion that address Sitting Height, Armspan and Proportions.  Its only my current opinion, that realistically AL is out of the picture for the majority.  Simply looking at the number of cosmetic AL cases. .  I couldn't even find one with brief searching.

Plenty of people are of the mind, that, it is bad if you do go through with LL and AL, yet sitting next to someone shorter than you, you are shorter (due to your spine/neck/head).

If you can assess that in your case, AL would improve your proportions, and you have the means, willpower and time. .  then go for it! Further investigation on your part would be best.

My opinions expressed here are just that, opinions; whether they are informed or not Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2014, 05:55:58 AM »

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Sorry if I made out that AL was a bad thing or something you shouldn't do.  

I believe Ocean even commented just before your first post.  .   is that you'd have to be crazy to do AL.   Due to the cost (of time, money and discomfort) not being worth the gain for proportion cosmetically.  

There are other posts in Proportions Discussion that address Sitting Height, Armspan and Proportions.   Its only my current opinion, that realistically AL is out of the picture for the majority.   Simply looking at the number of cosmetic AL cases.  .   I couldn't even find one with brief searching.  

Plenty of people are of the mind, that, it is bad if you do go through with LL and AL, yet sitting next to someone shorter than you, you are shorter (due to your spine/neck/head).  

If you can assess that in your case, AL would improve your proportions, and you have the means, willpower and time.  .   then go for it! Further investigation on your part would be best.  

My opinions expressed here are just that, opinions; whether they are informed or not Smiley


Great response I fully see your point of view!
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2014, 10:39:48 AM »

I've moved this discussion to it's own thread so it doesn't get lost in the 30+ pages on the "My Proportions" thread.
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2014, 03:18:30 AM »

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

Proportions has been one of the biggest things in my mind, even more than what story I'll tell about my height increase. My body is very close to Cary Kolat's and I can officially confirm that given we're about the same height (i might be 1 or 2 cm's shorter) I'm definitely going for the 5'10 or 5'11. This was very useful for me. I' like to take a photo of my self like this and ask for someone who can maybe edit and send back to me with a few different heights. But this thread and pictures have been very helpful.

Again, THANK YOU!

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2014, 08:13:11 AM »

his torso lenght and width is enough to pulling 6"1 but his arms will lend him looking ridiculous at that height, even at 5"11, but i see him fitting perfectly between 5"8-"5 9
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2014, 08:22:28 AM »

you people stop worring about sitting height, is means very little, of my friend there are two of them who are 6"0.5-6"1 and his torsos are way shorter than mine they are like 7-8cm shorter than me when sitting besides and i bet not a single phuck was given by them, people varies a lot in torso to leg ratio, i have a 29inch leg inseam, maybe they have like 35, and they´re both caucasians like me by the way so you cant pull the "black people are long limbed" card here XD
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2014, 04:00:15 PM »

his torso lenght and width is enough to pulling 6"1 but his arms will lend him looking ridiculous at that height, even at 5"11, but i see him fitting perfectly between 5"8-"5 9

Very few people in the world notice arm length, but everyone notices height. There is always humerus lengthening for those who are completely obsessed and worried about their arms.
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2014, 04:33:20 AM »

i agree, as you stated before with henry cavill, i would never realize he has short arms or even small hands, back on topic i do not see huge benefits for hypotetically lenghten that much past average height if is gonna be detrimental for proportions, at 5"10 he would look better than 6"1, but is highly subjetive
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2014, 12:57:35 PM »

6'1 is too much, but I think they'll 5'11 okay.  If the pants below to enter, then the belly would Longer.
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2015, 07:41:49 AM »

i think even at 5 11 his arms are way too short, if i was him doing LL i'd stop at 5 9 for sure.
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2015, 02:20:39 AM »

What do you all think about the idea of having longer humeri than forearms? Would/Does it look bad on men? Can it be worse-looking than arms that are too short?

How many known cases of AL do we have among those who have underwent LL? I see we have multiple LL veterans going 10+ but not many AL stories..
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